In the comments to Democratic Change Commission post I put up yesterday, Rob pointed out something about the late Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Barack Obama's presidential candidacy last year that was running through my mind yesterday.
Rob writes:
"I know that I am slightly off topic here, but one of the tributes to Ted Kennedy is that his endorsement of the Obama candidacy was a key factor in Obama's nomination. As I recall, many commentators at the time suggested that the endorsement was a big blow to the Clinton campaign. I thought, though, in the aftermath it became a consensus opinion that none of the endorsements in that campaign meant much, even EMKs. Am I imagining something or is this point just part of the glow of appreciation of man who has just passed away?"
The underlying question is, "Did Kennedy's endorsement have an impact and if so, to what degree?" There's no doubt that it had an impact. But measuring the endorsement's influence is difficult. For starters, we know that the endorsements game is one of zero sums. If Barack Obama gets the endorsement, then Hillary Clinton cannot. [Well, I suppose flip-flopping superdelegates are an exception to that rule. John Lewis, I'm looking in your direction.] Beyond that, we also know that in a presidential primary election environment, where contests follow one another (or groups of contests follow other groups of contests), the easiest way to measure the impact is to see how elections results are affected following the endorsement. Now from a hypothetical standpoint, this impact would be the greatest within the political boundaries and among the constituency the endorser represents.
In 2008, Ted Kennedy's endorsement could have been hypothesized to have bolstered Obama's chances ahead of the Massachusetts primary. The timeline went like this:
January 27: Caroline Kennedy's op-ed endorsing Obama appears in the New York Times.
January 28: Ted Kennedy endorses Obama.
February 5: Clinton bests Obama in the Bay state by a count of 56% to 41%.
The immediate, back of the napkin reaction in our (UGA) discussion group, as I recall, was that the endorsement didn't seem to have had that much of an effect. Some of the reasons cited were that the endorsement was made too close to the actual voting in the contest (just a week prior), and that Massachusetts was one among MANY other states holding contests on February 5. Indeed, to that second point, the Obama campaign was focused on grassroots efforts particularly in the caucus states on February 5 and beyond. That excluded Massachusetts.
But that brings up an important distinction: short-term versus long-term influence of endorsements. Prior to and after February 5, it was becoming apparent that the Democratic nomination race would be one focused on the delegate count. That differed from past years where momentum quickly carried most eventual nominees to their party's nomination and delegate counts were an afterthought. But in 2008, everyone was focused on that counting to the detriment of everything else. Unlike other years, then, when a Kennedy-type endorsement, if it even came before the nomination was wrapped up, would have been rolled into the narrative of "Candidate X had the momentum and won the nomination," 2008 gave us a different angle. The race as it played out afforded us the opportunity to attempt to separate the long-term and short-term goals instead of having them overlap almost completely.
Again, in the immediate aftermath of Super Tuesday, the Kennedy endorsement seemed to have backfired. But as Obama ran up the score throughout his February streak of victories and finally won the nomination in the late spring, the Kennedy decision looked better and better.
If we step back and look long-term, the impact of the endorsement seems to have been that it helped Obama gain a foothold within the Washington establishment; a wing of the party that more often than not leaned toward Clinton. In that zero sum environment, then, Kennedy's endorsement did hurt Clinton's campaign, but only because it helped Obama's instead. But there's a spectrum there, right? Did it help Obama more or less than it hurt Clinton? Personally, I think it helped Obama more. Clinton was already doing pretty well among the Washington establishment. If you look at some of the posts over at DemConWatch just before Super Tuesday, you get sense of this. Upon Edwards dropping out just after the Florida primary on January 29, Clinton had a two to one (approximately) advantage in superdelegates over, but as Matt (DemConWatch contributor) pointed on the final day of the month, an interesting pattern was emerging among superdelegates. Obama was picking up momentum among the supers just before February 5; especially big name supers. The then-Illinois senator was outpacing Clinton and in fact gaining on her in that count.
Kennedy's endorsement was just a part of that gradual movement toward Obama and maybe even slightly ahead of the curve.
Note: I should mention that the view from the political science literature on the impact of endorsements is mixed. In many ways it is lacking mainly because of the issues I cited above. What is being influenced, in other words? Electoral outcomes are one possibility as are polling numbers in specific states whether measuring vote intention of overall approval. The problem with those measures is that there are obviously many other factors affecting their variation. Does that mean we pack it up and head home? No, but what that ultimately means is that we end up with mixed results ranging from an endorsement had no impact to an endorsement had a big impact.
UPDATE: Here are a few reactions to the Kennedy endorsement at the time:
ABCNews Political Radar
New York Times The Caucus
Here are a couple from The Fix (Washington Post): one and two
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Wednesday, August 26, 2009
All Quiet on the Democratic Change Commission Front
Understandably Ted Kennedy's passing has Democrats thinking about other things today, but even before that, there was and continues to be an almost total absence of the Democratic Change Commission in the news this week ahead of the group's weekend meeting in St. Louis. Normally, I wouldn't make that big a deal of this, especially considering that real news of the DCC's first meeting didn't start filtering out until the Wednesday before. Even then, that scant news was able to cut through a week that involved Mark Sanford's adultery admission new conference and Michael Jackson's death. [What a week!] To me, though, this is troubling because this is the meeting that is supposed to be open for public comment. Yet, we've heard nothing from the party since the August 7 press release announced the online suggestions form.
There are however a couple of suggestions that are floating around out there that may see the light of day this weekend in Missouri.
1) End the Texas Two Step: Caucuses are definitely on the Commission's to-do list, but this is a tricky one. The problem some see in the primary-caucus set up in the Lone Star state is that primary voters' votes are discounted because not all primary voters return for the night cap caucus. That's all well and good, but this is still an issue that pits the national party against the state party; specifically a longstanding state party preference. And yes, the Democrats are more willing to strike down these types of structural anomalies than to yield to the states as the Republican Party typically does.
There's also the issue of Obama's preference. The system in Texas did allow him to best Hillary Clinton in the Texas delegate count once the caucus portion was tabulated in June. This still seems like a Clinton/Obama holdover to me; one that will be left to Texas Democrats to decide. And yes, the Texas Democratic Party has already been looking into the issue. I should also note that each state has to submit a delegate selection plan to the Democratic Party for approval (or will in 2011). The party does have the power to strike that down if they wish. But Texas can pull a Florida/Michigan move and hold a primary-caucus anyway. Both Florida and Michigan submitted plans that called for their 2008 primaries to be during the party-sanctioned period; not outside the window where they were ultimately held.
2) Be more youth friendly: The DNC Youth Council also penned a letter to the DCC and asked that the group attempt to insure that contests don't occur too early. The argument there is that contests like Iowa's January 3 caucuses occurred at a time when students were still at home on winter break. That is a legitimate concern, but seems to be moot given that the DCC seems committed to pulling back the opening of the window in which contests can take place into March again.
The Youth Council's other issue is with Saturday caucuses. Again, the concern is that weekend working youth would be disadvantaged. Some in the Jewish community may be willing to go along with the Youth Council on this one. Of course, now I really want to go and check out both the youth and Jewish proportion of the population in Saturday caucus states. In 2008 that list included Nebraska, Nevada, Washington and Wyoming. [Louisiana and South Carolina held Saturday primaries and Maine Democrats had a Sunday caucus.] This one will be talked about, because the effects aren't understood very well. There are pros and cons to having and not having weekend contests.
These and other public comments will be interesting to track throughout the Democratic Change Commission's meeting on Saturday. [No word yet on whether the DNC Youth Council has a problem with the day of this particular meeting and how that bodes for their argument. Oh, but the irony.]
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There are however a couple of suggestions that are floating around out there that may see the light of day this weekend in Missouri.
1) End the Texas Two Step: Caucuses are definitely on the Commission's to-do list, but this is a tricky one. The problem some see in the primary-caucus set up in the Lone Star state is that primary voters' votes are discounted because not all primary voters return for the night cap caucus. That's all well and good, but this is still an issue that pits the national party against the state party; specifically a longstanding state party preference. And yes, the Democrats are more willing to strike down these types of structural anomalies than to yield to the states as the Republican Party typically does.
There's also the issue of Obama's preference. The system in Texas did allow him to best Hillary Clinton in the Texas delegate count once the caucus portion was tabulated in June. This still seems like a Clinton/Obama holdover to me; one that will be left to Texas Democrats to decide. And yes, the Texas Democratic Party has already been looking into the issue. I should also note that each state has to submit a delegate selection plan to the Democratic Party for approval (or will in 2011). The party does have the power to strike that down if they wish. But Texas can pull a Florida/Michigan move and hold a primary-caucus anyway. Both Florida and Michigan submitted plans that called for their 2008 primaries to be during the party-sanctioned period; not outside the window where they were ultimately held.
2) Be more youth friendly: The DNC Youth Council also penned a letter to the DCC and asked that the group attempt to insure that contests don't occur too early. The argument there is that contests like Iowa's January 3 caucuses occurred at a time when students were still at home on winter break. That is a legitimate concern, but seems to be moot given that the DCC seems committed to pulling back the opening of the window in which contests can take place into March again.
The Youth Council's other issue is with Saturday caucuses. Again, the concern is that weekend working youth would be disadvantaged. Some in the Jewish community may be willing to go along with the Youth Council on this one. Of course, now I really want to go and check out both the youth and Jewish proportion of the population in Saturday caucus states. In 2008 that list included Nebraska, Nevada, Washington and Wyoming. [Louisiana and South Carolina held Saturday primaries and Maine Democrats had a Sunday caucus.] This one will be talked about, because the effects aren't understood very well. There are pros and cons to having and not having weekend contests.
These and other public comments will be interesting to track throughout the Democratic Change Commission's meeting on Saturday. [No word yet on whether the DNC Youth Council has a problem with the day of this particular meeting and how that bodes for their argument. Oh, but the irony.]
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Tuesday, August 25, 2009
About that New Jersey Governors Poll
There is a new poll out in the gubernatorial race in New Jersey, which at first glance looks like good news for Jon Corzine. Taken in conjunction with the poll out last week from Democracy Corps/Global Research Group, the new Neighborhood Research poll makes it seem as if Chris Christie's campaign is wilting in the late summer sun. Let's compare the numbers.
Looks pretty similar, right?
It does, but those Neighborhood numbers are among likely voters. The 319 likely voter sample is pared down even further to include undefined "definite" voters . [Christie led among that group 39-36 over Corzine with Chris Daggett pulling in 6%.] I don't know what a definite voter is, but I do know that 319 is definitely pushing the lower end of the acceptable bounds for a statewide sample and that anything lower than that is questionable from a representativeness standpoint.
Add to that the fact that Neighborhood Research is run by conservative strategist and former-Lonegan campaign manager, Rick Shaftan and the intrigue rises. Now, Steve Lonegan was Chris Christie's main opponent in the Republican gubernatorial primary earlier this year. Look, I'm not saying this poll is anything but legitimate, but that is two strikes against it; one on statistical grounds and the other falls in the "guilt by association" category. And I don't think either one is helping the other.
So, please excuse FHQ if we're a touch hesitant about including this poll in our average for the New Jersey gubernatorial race.
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| New Jersey Gubernatorial Polls (Late August 2009) | |||||
| Poll | Date | Corzine | Christie | Daggett | Undecided |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Neighborhood Research | Aug. 12-21, 2009 | 37 | 35 | 6 | -- |
| Democracy Corps [pdf] | Aug. 11-12, 2009 | 35 | 40 | 10 | 15 |
Looks pretty similar, right?
It does, but those Neighborhood numbers are among likely voters. The 319 likely voter sample is pared down even further to include undefined "definite" voters . [Christie led among that group 39-36 over Corzine with Chris Daggett pulling in 6%.] I don't know what a definite voter is, but I do know that 319 is definitely pushing the lower end of the acceptable bounds for a statewide sample and that anything lower than that is questionable from a representativeness standpoint.
Add to that the fact that Neighborhood Research is run by conservative strategist and former-Lonegan campaign manager, Rick Shaftan and the intrigue rises. Now, Steve Lonegan was Chris Christie's main opponent in the Republican gubernatorial primary earlier this year. Look, I'm not saying this poll is anything but legitimate, but that is two strikes against it; one on statistical grounds and the other falls in the "guilt by association" category. And I don't think either one is helping the other.
So, please excuse FHQ if we're a touch hesitant about including this poll in our average for the New Jersey gubernatorial race.
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[Click to Enlarge]Late last week I was contacted by Stephanie Simon at the Wall Street Journal inquiring about the 2010 census and its implications. [And I didn't make the cut in her article today. Ouch! Ha!] Ms. Simon had run across FHQ's projected 2012 electoral college map and that served as her jumping off point, but as I was preparing some notes for our call, it occurred to me that the map and its projection create an incomplete picture of the process. Sure, we end up with the final product (the number of electoral votes (congressional seats) a projected number of states will gain or lose), but all the while, we are deprived of the background process. For instance, it is fine to speculate that Texas will gain up to four congressional seats/electoral votes. What, though, will the powers that be in the Lone Star state do with those new seats? That's the piece that's missing. Well, I suppose it isn't so much about what will be done in the gaining and losing states as much as it is about the likelihood of certain changes on the state level. That's what I want to look at a little more today. What outcomes are we likely to see on the state level and what factors affect those outcomes in the first place? The bottom line is that this whole process isn't necessarily as simple as saying, "Texas is a red state, so Texas will see significant Republican gains in Congress and in the electoral college."
Well, Texas may not be the best example.
First, let me note that I'll be focused here on the states projected to gain or lose congressional seats/electoral votes. Technically, all states have the option of redrawing their lines,* win, lose or draw, but I want to look specifically at those states that are forced to redraw their congressional district lines.
Now, let's tackle the redistricting process. No, I'm not going to get into the laws in each state other than to draw a distinction between those states where congressional redistricting takes place in the state legislature and those where the process it filtered through an independent commission. Of those in the latter category, only two are projected to gain (Arizona) or lose (New Jersey) seats. From the latest projection via the Census Bureau (minus Arizona and New Jersey), then, we are left with six states likely to gain and ten states likely to lose seats following next year's canvass. Let's look at the situation on the ground in those states, how that may or may not change in the 2010 elections, and what implications that might have for how news lines in those states are drawn.
| State Government Control (in states likely to gain or lose congressional seats following the 2010 Census) | |||||
| State | +/- seats | Governor's Party | State House Control* | State Senate Control* | 2010 Elections** |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Arizona | +2 | Districts drawn by commission | |||
| Florida | +2 | R | R | R | governor, house |
| Georgia | +1 | R | R | R | governor, house, senate |
| Illinois | -1 | D | D | D | governor, house |
| Iowa | -1 | D | D | D | governor, house |
| Louisiana | -1 | R | D | D | *** |
| Massachusetts | -1 | D | D | D | governor, house, senate |
| Michigan | -1 | D | D | R | governor, house, senate |
| Minnesota | -1 | R | D | D | governor, house, senate |
| Missouri | -1 | D | R | R | house |
| Nevada | +1 | R | D | D | governor, house |
| New Jersey | -1 | Districts drawn by commission | |||
| New York | -1 | D | D | D | governor, house, senate |
| Ohio | -2 | D | D | R | governor, house |
| Pennsylvania | -1 | D | D | R | governor, house |
| South Carolina | +1 | R | R | R | governor, house |
| Texas | +4 | R | R | R | governor, house |
| Utah | +1 | R | R | R | governor, house |
| *Source: National Conference of State Legislatures **Source: National Conference of State Legislatures ***Next round of state level elections: 2011 | |||||
What we see in the table above is the extent to which there is divided government (both interchamber and interbranch) across the sixteen states most likely to gain or lose seats. And though it is something of a minor point, given the general lack of partisan division throughout the majority of these states (especially the gaining states), we also see what offices are up for grabs in the 2010 midterm elections. For example, all six states projected to gain seats will have gubernatorial elections in 2010, but five of those six have only state House elections and not the entire legislature facing reelection next year. On the flip side, among states most likely to lose seats in Congress, eight of the ten have 2010 gubernatorial elections while half will see the entire legislature up for reelection (with the other half having only state House elections).
Well, what does any of this mean? For starters, it makes the claim that red states are gaining seats and blue states are losing them more then simply facially valid. That is true. But in these cases, the underlying political make up on the state level backs that up as well. Of the gaining states, all but Nevada have unified Republican control. The result? Well, I suspect those state governments are going to draw those new districts in a way that is going to maximize the number of Republican seats in the state's congressional delegation. But that's just a hunch.
The story is different in the states where population has increased the least (or decreased) over the course of the last decade. In only four states (and New York depending on how the Senate situation in the Empire state is progressing), is there unified Democratic government. With only two exceptions (Louisiana and Missouri), all of these states have Democratic governors, but there are varying levels of division between the executive and legislative branches or within the legislature.
The net effect across both types of states is that the gaining states will have a relatively easier time coming up with redistricting plans that are beneficial to the clear majority party in the states (the Republicans). In the losing states, however, there will be more of a discussion (if not all-out, partisan fight) over to how to go about drawing the new districts. After all, some current member of Congress is going to get squeezed out. Who that is, or more importantly what party they are from, will be the result of that "discussion."
Hypothetically, a unified government environment translates into a partisan gerrymander (benefiting the party in control) whereas a state where divided government prevails means that an "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" mentality pervades the state legislature. The latter case is more often than not a simple incumbent gerrymander where incumbents are protected over party label. Still, this creates quite a conundrum in those states whose congressional delegations will be trimmed. Which party loses a seat? The state legislative elections in 2010 and the extent to which Democrats remain in control of those chambers will have a large say in the alignment of the post-census electoral college in 2012 (much less the balance of power in the House.)
*If we really want to get technical, all/most states have the option of redrawing their districts whenever they want, whether immediately after the decennial census or not. It wasn't until the 20th century that midstream redistricting (those like Texas' 2003 redistricting plan after Republicans won full control of the state legislature) began to be frowned upon, or at least went out of vogue. It was quite common in the 19th century to see state legislative control change hands and quickly be followed by the implementation of a complete redistricting. For more on this see Carson, et al. (2006).
Edit: Please note that the table heading has been changed to accurately reflect the data contained therein. You have to love taking shortcuts that involve reusing the template from a previous table only to find yourself forgetting to change the original heading. I apologize for any confusion.
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Part of the reason FHQ wanted to examine the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial races this year was not the races themselves as much as what they represent: an opportunity to test and try out a few things in terms of how we process new polling information as it comes in. To this point, though, we have essentially leaned on the graduated weighted averaging formula used to a fair amount of success in the presidential race last year. There's nothing wrong with that formula. It was far more simplistic than some of the alternatives out there and only missed North Carolina and Indiana in the electoral college categorization (Even then, North Carolina was essentially a tie in the average. But I digress...). The governors races in New Jersey and Virginia, then, are being utilized with an eye toward 2012 and the electoral college.
First of all, one feature that would have been nice last year (for every state or at the very least the swing states) is a graph similar to the ones FHQ has appended to each New Jersey and Virginia polling update. As I said recently, though, the lines on those charts seem to be floating in space without some baseline for comparison (the actual raw polling data, for instance). But that got me to thinking: The graduated weighted average is constructed to give the most recent poll the most weight, but also to incorporate past polling data in a way that guards against a shock to the system; an anomaly. And all that really is is a poor man's regression line. My question then was, How does the graduated weighted average stack up against a simple regression projection based on the polling data we have at our disposal? Sure, I could take an "everything but the kitchen sink" approach and add seemingly relevant variables to my heart's delight, but let's see how a simple bivariate regression as a start. Remember, Virginia and New Jersey are test cases for the 2012 electoral college model.
So all I did was regress the time in the campaign so far (measured as the number of days in the campaign*) on each candidate's share of support in the polls conducted over that period. All that basically does is provide us with a trendline based on the hypothesis that over time there will be some changes to a candidate's level of support. Yes, that is ambiguous, so let me be a bit more specific. Most clearly, we can hypothesize that over time, the undecided share will decrease and in this particular instance, that the Republican share will increase. Indeed, in both cases, the time component explained a surprising amount of the variation in the undecided share across polls as well as both Chris Christie's and Bob McDonnell's support (between 30 and 50%).
But the two Democratic models performed far worse. In both cases, less than 10% of the changes in Deeds' and Corzine's shares were accounted for in the time series. Why? Well, in neither case is there much change to speak of. There's more change in the Deeds case than for Corzine, but not by much.
Fine, what does any of this mean and what does it leave us with graphically? Good questions. I'll take the second one first and then use the two figures below to illustrate the former. Graphically, as you can see below it leaves us with a bit of a mess. Nine separate lines are a lot to take in. However, there is a wealth of information in these two figures. The most volatile lines are the raw polling datum (referred to there as actual) while the smoother two lines around with they hover (and are based upon) are the graduated weighted average (average) and the regression projection (predicted).
The raw data are nice, but let's focus on the other two lines, as this post is supposed to be about comparing two different projections of the state of each of these races.
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In the New Jersey example, we see that the graduated weighted average and the regression line track each other almost exactly in the case of Jon Corzine. Again, there isn't too terribly much change, relatively speaking, in the Corzine numbers and that keeps the lines closer together. Where there is more volatility, there is more divergence between the two measures. This is most clear among the undecideds. The graduated weighted average projects the level of voters yet to be had by either campaign at a consistently higher level in New Jersey since June than does the regression measure of the same concept. The same sort of phenomenon can be seen in Chris Christie's numbers. However, in this case the graduated weighted average comes in below where the regression finds the Republican candidate's support across these polls. And on the whole, the difference between the two measures appears to be growing over time. If the regression prediction is the more reliable measure (and that is an arguable point given the simplicity of the model), then the graduated weighted average is losing predictive power over time in regards to Chris Christie's share of support in this race. That isn't really the best trajectory to be on if you are attempting to use polling information as a means of forecasting the results of an election.
But New Jersey is just one case. How do things look further south in the Old Dominion?
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Things are a bit more muddled in the Virginia example and that is largely attributable to the differences across the two races.
First of all, there are far fewer polls that have been conducted in the Virginia race. Still, given the window of time that is being considered in each race, each state is averaging a poll every seven or eight days. Regardless, fewer polls overall in the Virginia case translates to more volatility in the graduated weighted average.
But also, there have been different dynamics at work in both races. In New Jersey, Jon Corzine has been stuck in a holding pattern in the polls while Chris Christie has, on the whole, gained over time. The Virginia case is quite different. The polls showed a close race early, but over time that has yielded a seemingly comfortable McDonnell lead.
The smaller window of time in Virginia means that there is less time for past polling results to have decayed and less new polls to have outweighed them. As a consequence, the graduated weighted average is stuck to some degree; overvaluing some of those past results that were more Deeds-heavy. Well wait, what that really means is that this graduated weighted averaging methodology is bias against Republicans. It happens to be in this case. But what the average is really biased against is rapid change. And in 2009, both Republican candidates are the ones who are moving in the polls, at least as compared to their Democratic counterparts. Which brings us to the crux of the matter: The issue with the average has always been whether the past polls are over or undervalued. In this comparison, it seems as if those past polls are still being overvalued, potentially at the expense of gleaning the true state of each race.
But let's return to those Virginia results for a moment. With the above caveats in mind, we would expect the average to underperform the regression in the McDonnell model while the two lines would remain rather close to each other (while slightly overperforming) for Deeds. All that means is that the status quo from poll to poll is protected more in the case of the average than with the progression of the regression trendline.
What does this mean for the graduated weighted average? I'm not apt to scrap it just yet. This exercise is helpful in determining the usefulness of the measure in settings other than the electoral college (and even for the electoral college, truth be told). Again, FHQ even examining these races in the first place is a function of tweaking the measure with 2012 on the distant horizon. Better to do it while that is distant and not on top of us with or after the midterms next year.
As for what this means for what you'll see in subsequent iterations of these polling updates, you'll continue to see the Actual vs. Average trend and will likely see occasional (and perhaps more advanced) regression model predictions. So, be on the lookout for that.
*For New Jersey, that means the number of days since the first of the year (as Christie was the clear cut Republican frontrunner to challenge Corzine) and in Virginia, the time since the Washington Post's endorsement of Creigh Deeds in the Democratic primary race (It was at that point that Deeds was really first seen as a legitimate candidate in the race -- primary or general election.).
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First of all, one feature that would have been nice last year (for every state or at the very least the swing states) is a graph similar to the ones FHQ has appended to each New Jersey and Virginia polling update. As I said recently, though, the lines on those charts seem to be floating in space without some baseline for comparison (the actual raw polling data, for instance). But that got me to thinking: The graduated weighted average is constructed to give the most recent poll the most weight, but also to incorporate past polling data in a way that guards against a shock to the system; an anomaly. And all that really is is a poor man's regression line. My question then was, How does the graduated weighted average stack up against a simple regression projection based on the polling data we have at our disposal? Sure, I could take an "everything but the kitchen sink" approach and add seemingly relevant variables to my heart's delight, but let's see how a simple bivariate regression as a start. Remember, Virginia and New Jersey are test cases for the 2012 electoral college model.
So all I did was regress the time in the campaign so far (measured as the number of days in the campaign*) on each candidate's share of support in the polls conducted over that period. All that basically does is provide us with a trendline based on the hypothesis that over time there will be some changes to a candidate's level of support. Yes, that is ambiguous, so let me be a bit more specific. Most clearly, we can hypothesize that over time, the undecided share will decrease and in this particular instance, that the Republican share will increase. Indeed, in both cases, the time component explained a surprising amount of the variation in the undecided share across polls as well as both Chris Christie's and Bob McDonnell's support (between 30 and 50%).
But the two Democratic models performed far worse. In both cases, less than 10% of the changes in Deeds' and Corzine's shares were accounted for in the time series. Why? Well, in neither case is there much change to speak of. There's more change in the Deeds case than for Corzine, but not by much.
Fine, what does any of this mean and what does it leave us with graphically? Good questions. I'll take the second one first and then use the two figures below to illustrate the former. Graphically, as you can see below it leaves us with a bit of a mess. Nine separate lines are a lot to take in. However, there is a wealth of information in these two figures. The most volatile lines are the raw polling datum (referred to there as actual) while the smoother two lines around with they hover (and are based upon) are the graduated weighted average (average) and the regression projection (predicted).
The raw data are nice, but let's focus on the other two lines, as this post is supposed to be about comparing two different projections of the state of each of these races.
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[Click to Enlarge]In the New Jersey example, we see that the graduated weighted average and the regression line track each other almost exactly in the case of Jon Corzine. Again, there isn't too terribly much change, relatively speaking, in the Corzine numbers and that keeps the lines closer together. Where there is more volatility, there is more divergence between the two measures. This is most clear among the undecideds. The graduated weighted average projects the level of voters yet to be had by either campaign at a consistently higher level in New Jersey since June than does the regression measure of the same concept. The same sort of phenomenon can be seen in Chris Christie's numbers. However, in this case the graduated weighted average comes in below where the regression finds the Republican candidate's support across these polls. And on the whole, the difference between the two measures appears to be growing over time. If the regression prediction is the more reliable measure (and that is an arguable point given the simplicity of the model), then the graduated weighted average is losing predictive power over time in regards to Chris Christie's share of support in this race. That isn't really the best trajectory to be on if you are attempting to use polling information as a means of forecasting the results of an election.
But New Jersey is just one case. How do things look further south in the Old Dominion?
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[Click to Enlarge]Things are a bit more muddled in the Virginia example and that is largely attributable to the differences across the two races.
First of all, there are far fewer polls that have been conducted in the Virginia race. Still, given the window of time that is being considered in each race, each state is averaging a poll every seven or eight days. Regardless, fewer polls overall in the Virginia case translates to more volatility in the graduated weighted average.
But also, there have been different dynamics at work in both races. In New Jersey, Jon Corzine has been stuck in a holding pattern in the polls while Chris Christie has, on the whole, gained over time. The Virginia case is quite different. The polls showed a close race early, but over time that has yielded a seemingly comfortable McDonnell lead.
The smaller window of time in Virginia means that there is less time for past polling results to have decayed and less new polls to have outweighed them. As a consequence, the graduated weighted average is stuck to some degree; overvaluing some of those past results that were more Deeds-heavy. Well wait, what that really means is that this graduated weighted averaging methodology is bias against Republicans. It happens to be in this case. But what the average is really biased against is rapid change. And in 2009, both Republican candidates are the ones who are moving in the polls, at least as compared to their Democratic counterparts. Which brings us to the crux of the matter: The issue with the average has always been whether the past polls are over or undervalued. In this comparison, it seems as if those past polls are still being overvalued, potentially at the expense of gleaning the true state of each race.
But let's return to those Virginia results for a moment. With the above caveats in mind, we would expect the average to underperform the regression in the McDonnell model while the two lines would remain rather close to each other (while slightly overperforming) for Deeds. All that means is that the status quo from poll to poll is protected more in the case of the average than with the progression of the regression trendline.
What does this mean for the graduated weighted average? I'm not apt to scrap it just yet. This exercise is helpful in determining the usefulness of the measure in settings other than the electoral college (and even for the electoral college, truth be told). Again, FHQ even examining these races in the first place is a function of tweaking the measure with 2012 on the distant horizon. Better to do it while that is distant and not on top of us with or after the midterms next year.
As for what this means for what you'll see in subsequent iterations of these polling updates, you'll continue to see the Actual vs. Average trend and will likely see occasional (and perhaps more advanced) regression model predictions. So, be on the lookout for that.
*For New Jersey, that means the number of days since the first of the year (as Christie was the clear cut Republican frontrunner to challenge Corzine) and in Virginia, the time since the Washington Post's endorsement of Creigh Deeds in the Democratic primary race (It was at that point that Deeds was really first seen as a legitimate candidate in the race -- primary or general election.).
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Friday, August 21, 2009
Don't Forget Your Change Commission Reform Suggestions: Deadline Today
Suggest early. Suggest often (...if you're so inclined). Here's the link.
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Thursday, August 20, 2009
2012 Presidential Race: August PPP Trial Heats In-Depth
As I mentioned earlier, Public Policy Polling [pdf] released an August iteration of their 2012 presidential trial heats today. [Pop on over and check out the results in FHQ's first post, but in this space I want to get a better look under the hood.] Some still have issues with these polls, but as I've maintained, I like the information (even three years in advance), but don't operate under the illusion that these polls are not without their caveats. In addition, then, to the typical grains of salt these poll should be taken with there are other considerations as well.
Last month it was the fact that Obama swept the South against all four prospective Republican candidates in the PPP poll. With the region question absent this month, the subject of my ire is the education question. Over one-third of the 909 respondents in the survey are identified as having some after-college graduate or professional training. That's a lot! It is however, interesting for a couple of reasons.
First, in terms of the highest level of education achieved, the Census shows 28.7% of the US population as having a bachelor's degree or more (as of March 2007). Keep in mind, that that figure rolls in those who have a bachelor's degree and it still comes in below this PPP sample. Well, the Census figure is dealing with the total population and the PPP poll is looking at voters. Let's be fair. The 2008 presidential election exit polls indicate that 17% of voters had a least some amount of education beyond college. That's half of what PPP has represented in this sample.
The second part of this is that of that 17% in the exit polls with some post-graduate education, 58% supported Obama. It is eye-opening, then that Obama seems to have a decreased level of support overall in this poll versus last month's results. Either Obama is slipping with this group (interesting in and of itself) or something is up with the internals of this poll. After all, if a third of the respondents are from a group the president won by a 3:2 ratio, then he should do better, not worse, in the poll overall. Of course, this education variable is new to the survey this month, so we don't have any means of comparison. It is something to keep in mind, though, as we look at the poll and the overall trends over time.
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Let's go through these alphabetically starting with Newt Gingrich. The former Speaker of the House has been in a holding pattern vis a vis the president throughout the summer. Along with Sarah Palin, Gingrich is the only other candidate with a negative approval differential. He and the former Alaska governor and vice presidential nominee both carry differentials of -9, though, more respondents are unsure on Gingrich than on Palin.
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Though Huckabee's share increased in August over July, the trendline to track is Obama's. The president has steadily tracked downward against Huckabee in not only the PPP polls, but incorporating the other polls that have conducted trial heats on the 2012 race as well. The former Arkansas governor is the most favorable (+17) of the four prospective Republican candidates and does the best of all four among former McCain voters in the sample (84%, Gingrich: 80%, Palin: 77%, Romney: 79%). Huckabee's dilemma is that he has yet to translate that into any notable financial gains for his HuckPAC. He trails both Romney and Palin in that regard. That can certainly be made up, but folks aren't opening their checkbooks for him yet. That Huckabee is within three points is noteworthy; there's no doubt about that.
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As for Sarah Palin, the former McCain running mate slipped versus last month's PPP poll, but certainly fares better than in the Marist poll released earlier in the week. I want to focus on race with Palin. I've already noted the continued gender gap issue she has; lagging behind the other Republicans among women against Obama (Gingrich: -17*, Huckabee: -5*, Palin: -28*, Romney: -14*). This continues to be a curious phenomenon, but isn't anything we haven't seen in past polls.
The main question facing the Republican Party after the 2008 election, though, was race-based: How could the party appeal to the growing (especially Hispanic) segment of the population? Sure, that's melted into the background to some extent since the Democrats in the capital are helping them out in regards to 2010 and 2012 via their avenues of policy pursuit (And yes, there are plenty of media and messaging effects rolled into that as well.). Long term, though, it is a concern for the GOP. Well, which of the four Republican candidates included in this August poll does the best with Hispanics or who puts the party in the best position to potentially woo those voters? It isn't Palin. In fact, the former Alaska governor is the least favorable candidate among Hispanics (50% unfavorable) and her 17 point deficit against Obama with Hispanics is at the bottom (though it isn't as troubling on the surface as her approval deficit among Hispanics compared to the other candidates). Huckabee leads the way among Hispanics and offer Republicans the best opportunity to at making inroads with the group.
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Mitt Romney continues to look good on paper as a 2012 candidate. Financially, his Free and Strong America PAC is doing well and he typically fares well in the 2012 primary polls. As Tom Jensen at PPP pointed out today, though, Romney's issue is that he is the least popular of the four Republicans (Only 52% of Republicans approve of Romney. Gingrich: 56%, Huckabee: 66%, Palin: 72%). Additionally that has been an increasing trend over the course of the last few polls. That isn't the greatest sign for the former Massachusetts governor, but this trend does not seem to have stretched into some of the other polls, especially the primary polls. It is something to keeps tabs on, however.
* The equation is simple the male differential against Obama minus the female differential against the president. If Tim Pawlenty, for instance, was +5 among men against Obama and -12 among women, the Minnesota governor would have a -7 gender gap.
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Last month it was the fact that Obama swept the South against all four prospective Republican candidates in the PPP poll. With the region question absent this month, the subject of my ire is the education question. Over one-third of the 909 respondents in the survey are identified as having some after-college graduate or professional training. That's a lot! It is however, interesting for a couple of reasons.
First, in terms of the highest level of education achieved, the Census shows 28.7% of the US population as having a bachelor's degree or more (as of March 2007). Keep in mind, that that figure rolls in those who have a bachelor's degree and it still comes in below this PPP sample. Well, the Census figure is dealing with the total population and the PPP poll is looking at voters. Let's be fair. The 2008 presidential election exit polls indicate that 17% of voters had a least some amount of education beyond college. That's half of what PPP has represented in this sample.
The second part of this is that of that 17% in the exit polls with some post-graduate education, 58% supported Obama. It is eye-opening, then that Obama seems to have a decreased level of support overall in this poll versus last month's results. Either Obama is slipping with this group (interesting in and of itself) or something is up with the internals of this poll. After all, if a third of the respondents are from a group the president won by a 3:2 ratio, then he should do better, not worse, in the poll overall. Of course, this education variable is new to the survey this month, so we don't have any means of comparison. It is something to keep in mind, though, as we look at the poll and the overall trends over time.
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[Click to Enlarge]Let's go through these alphabetically starting with Newt Gingrich. The former Speaker of the House has been in a holding pattern vis a vis the president throughout the summer. Along with Sarah Palin, Gingrich is the only other candidate with a negative approval differential. He and the former Alaska governor and vice presidential nominee both carry differentials of -9, though, more respondents are unsure on Gingrich than on Palin.
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[Click to Enlarge]Though Huckabee's share increased in August over July, the trendline to track is Obama's. The president has steadily tracked downward against Huckabee in not only the PPP polls, but incorporating the other polls that have conducted trial heats on the 2012 race as well. The former Arkansas governor is the most favorable (+17) of the four prospective Republican candidates and does the best of all four among former McCain voters in the sample (84%, Gingrich: 80%, Palin: 77%, Romney: 79%). Huckabee's dilemma is that he has yet to translate that into any notable financial gains for his HuckPAC. He trails both Romney and Palin in that regard. That can certainly be made up, but folks aren't opening their checkbooks for him yet. That Huckabee is within three points is noteworthy; there's no doubt about that.
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[Click to Enlarge]As for Sarah Palin, the former McCain running mate slipped versus last month's PPP poll, but certainly fares better than in the Marist poll released earlier in the week. I want to focus on race with Palin. I've already noted the continued gender gap issue she has; lagging behind the other Republicans among women against Obama (Gingrich: -17*, Huckabee: -5*, Palin: -28*, Romney: -14*). This continues to be a curious phenomenon, but isn't anything we haven't seen in past polls.
The main question facing the Republican Party after the 2008 election, though, was race-based: How could the party appeal to the growing (especially Hispanic) segment of the population? Sure, that's melted into the background to some extent since the Democrats in the capital are helping them out in regards to 2010 and 2012 via their avenues of policy pursuit (And yes, there are plenty of media and messaging effects rolled into that as well.). Long term, though, it is a concern for the GOP. Well, which of the four Republican candidates included in this August poll does the best with Hispanics or who puts the party in the best position to potentially woo those voters? It isn't Palin. In fact, the former Alaska governor is the least favorable candidate among Hispanics (50% unfavorable) and her 17 point deficit against Obama with Hispanics is at the bottom (though it isn't as troubling on the surface as her approval deficit among Hispanics compared to the other candidates). Huckabee leads the way among Hispanics and offer Republicans the best opportunity to at making inroads with the group.
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[Click to Enlarge]Mitt Romney continues to look good on paper as a 2012 candidate. Financially, his Free and Strong America PAC is doing well and he typically fares well in the 2012 primary polls. As Tom Jensen at PPP pointed out today, though, Romney's issue is that he is the least popular of the four Republicans (Only 52% of Republicans approve of Romney. Gingrich: 56%, Huckabee: 66%, Palin: 72%). Additionally that has been an increasing trend over the course of the last few polls. That isn't the greatest sign for the former Massachusetts governor, but this trend does not seem to have stretched into some of the other polls, especially the primary polls. It is something to keeps tabs on, however.
* The equation is simple the male differential against Obama minus the female differential against the president. If Tim Pawlenty, for instance, was +5 among men against Obama and -12 among women, the Minnesota governor would have a -7 gender gap.
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PPP Poll: 2012 Trial Heats (Obama v. Gingrich/Huckabee/Palin/Romney) August Edition
Public Policy Polling [pdf] has released its August edition of its 2012 trial heat polls. Here are the results of interest. I'll be back a little later with a deeper look and updated graphics.
Obama: 49%
Gingrich: 41%
Not Sure: 10%
Obama: 47%
Huckabee: 44%
Not Sure: 10%
Obama: 52%
Palin: 38%
Not Sure: 10%
Obama: 47%
Romney: 40%
Not Sure: 12%
Margin of error: +/- 3.3 points
Sample: 909 voters (national)
Conducted: August 14-17, 2009
A couple of quickie notes:
1) Palin's gender gap against Obama is still larger than all the other prospective (male) Republicans. She still does worse among women than Gingrich, Huckabee and Romney.
2) The big thing with PPP's July trial heats was that they surveyed each respondent's region and found that Obama swept the South; beating all four prospective Republicans. Region is a question that is noticeably absent from today's release. Why? What is there to hide?
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Obama: 49%
Gingrich: 41%
Not Sure: 10%
Obama: 47%
Huckabee: 44%
Not Sure: 10%
Obama: 52%
Palin: 38%
Not Sure: 10%
Obama: 47%
Romney: 40%
Not Sure: 12%
Margin of error: +/- 3.3 points
Sample: 909 voters (national)
Conducted: August 14-17, 2009
A couple of quickie notes:
1) Palin's gender gap against Obama is still larger than all the other prospective (male) Republicans. She still does worse among women than Gingrich, Huckabee and Romney.
2) The big thing with PPP's July trial heats was that they surveyed each respondent's region and found that Obama swept the South; beating all four prospective Republicans. Region is a question that is noticeably absent from today's release. Why? What is there to hide?
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Wednesday, August 19, 2009
State of the Race: Virginia Governor (8/19/09)
As was the case with the New Jersey race for governor, FHQ has fallen behind in Virginia as well. Let's see what we missed (and what impact it has had):
FHQ had put on its Missouri cap at the end of July with the release of the Survey USA poll showing Republican Bob McDonnell cresting above the 50% mark and Creigh Deeds double digits behind. Well, in the time since that poll -- time FHQ was otherwise indisposed -- our "Show Me" attitude has turned a 180 and arrived at "Oh, I see." All four polls since have shown McDonnell around 50% and Deeds further back in the upper 30s to lower 40s range.
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Together, these polls, in addition to the earlier ones FHQ is considering in its graduated weighted averages of this race, put McDonnell ahead by right at ten points at the moment. And while the gap in the New Jersey race might be ever so slightly contracting, the race in the Old Dominion is headed in the other direction entirely. If you're a Democrat from Virginia or not, you have to be wondering where the Bush administration's loyalty rating of Bob McDonnell is (or at least a Virginia version of what may be a game changer in New Jersey*).
I read the word balance used in connection with this race recently (I'll have to track down the link.) and it is being used in a way I don't know that I've ever encountered. The idea proposed was that Virginians might be opting for McDonnell to balance out the recent Democratic shift in the state at the national level. Typically, we talk of balance in terms of ticket balancing; choosing an executive (on either the federal or state level) from one party and a legislative representative from the other as a means putting a check on the power of government. But this is balancing based not on an interbranch basis but in terms of levels within the federalist system. Nationally, then, Virginia has shifted toward the left; electing a pair of Democratic senators since 2006 and Barack Obama as president in 2008. In a state where Republicans control the House and Democrats control the Senate by the narrowest of margins, Virginians could opt to send McDonnell into office with a newly GOP-controlled Senate, pitting the GOP state government against the Democratic folks sent by the state to act in the federal government. This is a new idea to me. One I'll have to look at a bit more closely (or at least search for some research within the political science literature). Certainly, this is an altogether different type of sophisticated voting.
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The trendline at least is more interesting to look at than the New Jersey version. Instead of a rather static picture, the Virginia race offers a distinct trend in McDonnell's direction across the polls conducted since the Washington Post's primary endorsement of Creigh Deeds. Deeds' dilemma is trying to figure out a way to reverse the current trajectory of the race. With Labor Day on the horizon, it is getting down to crunch time.
*It remains to be seen whether the Bush/Christie link will inflict any sustained damage on the Christie campaign, but it is out there as an issue now. There will need to be more polls conducted to show whether that revelation is having any real long term influence on the race. The "Show Me" attitude is now shifting northward to the Garden state.
NOTE: For once, it is nice to have said that something is coming tomorrow and be able to put it out early. Too often, I end up saying something is coming tomorrow only to have it come out the day after that.
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| Virginia Gubernatorial Polls (July 31-Aug. 18) | |||||
| Poll | Date | Deeds | McDonnell | Undecided | |
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| Washington Post | Aug. 11-14, 2009 | 39 | 54 | 7 | |
| Rasmussen | Aug. 5-9, 2009 | 41 | 49 | 7 | |
| Daily Kos/Research 2000 | Aug. 3-5, 2009 | 43 | 51 | 6 | |
| Public Policy Polling [pdf] | Aug. 4, 2009 | 37 | 51 | 12 | |
FHQ had put on its Missouri cap at the end of July with the release of the Survey USA poll showing Republican Bob McDonnell cresting above the 50% mark and Creigh Deeds double digits behind. Well, in the time since that poll -- time FHQ was otherwise indisposed -- our "Show Me" attitude has turned a 180 and arrived at "Oh, I see." All four polls since have shown McDonnell around 50% and Deeds further back in the upper 30s to lower 40s range.
[Click to Enlarge]Together, these polls, in addition to the earlier ones FHQ is considering in its graduated weighted averages of this race, put McDonnell ahead by right at ten points at the moment. And while the gap in the New Jersey race might be ever so slightly contracting, the race in the Old Dominion is headed in the other direction entirely. If you're a Democrat from Virginia or not, you have to be wondering where the Bush administration's loyalty rating of Bob McDonnell is (or at least a Virginia version of what may be a game changer in New Jersey*).
I read the word balance used in connection with this race recently (I'll have to track down the link.) and it is being used in a way I don't know that I've ever encountered. The idea proposed was that Virginians might be opting for McDonnell to balance out the recent Democratic shift in the state at the national level. Typically, we talk of balance in terms of ticket balancing; choosing an executive (on either the federal or state level) from one party and a legislative representative from the other as a means putting a check on the power of government. But this is balancing based not on an interbranch basis but in terms of levels within the federalist system. Nationally, then, Virginia has shifted toward the left; electing a pair of Democratic senators since 2006 and Barack Obama as president in 2008. In a state where Republicans control the House and Democrats control the Senate by the narrowest of margins, Virginians could opt to send McDonnell into office with a newly GOP-controlled Senate, pitting the GOP state government against the Democratic folks sent by the state to act in the federal government. This is a new idea to me. One I'll have to look at a bit more closely (or at least search for some research within the political science literature). Certainly, this is an altogether different type of sophisticated voting.
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[Click to Enlarge]The trendline at least is more interesting to look at than the New Jersey version. Instead of a rather static picture, the Virginia race offers a distinct trend in McDonnell's direction across the polls conducted since the Washington Post's primary endorsement of Creigh Deeds. Deeds' dilemma is trying to figure out a way to reverse the current trajectory of the race. With Labor Day on the horizon, it is getting down to crunch time.
*It remains to be seen whether the Bush/Christie link will inflict any sustained damage on the Christie campaign, but it is out there as an issue now. There will need to be more polls conducted to show whether that revelation is having any real long term influence on the race. The "Show Me" attitude is now shifting northward to the Garden state.
NOTE: For once, it is nice to have said that something is coming tomorrow and be able to put it out early. Too often, I end up saying something is coming tomorrow only to have it come out the day after that.
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State of the Race: New Jersey Governor (8/19/09)
Yeah, it has been a while -- almost a month in fact -- since the last polling update in the New Jersey gubernatorial race. I moved. What can I say? Anyway, here are the polls we've yet to incorporate:
Before I get into the specifics, let me make a note on the inclusion of one poll (Democracy Corps) and the exclusion of another (Global Strategy Group). I'll admit, I wrestled over including the Democracy Corps poll, but ultimately fell back on what I did regarding the polling outfit during the presidential campaign. I included them. Again, I'm cognizant of the fact that what were dealing with here is an organization that leans left, but I draw the line between partisan leaning and partisan aligned in these cases. FHQ would not, for instance, use the numbers from a Republican Governors Association poll, but we are in the habit of accepting the numbers from right leaning Strategic Vision. The same is true in this case. The Democracy Corps numbers are included while the New Jersey Democratic Assembly sanctioned Global Strategy Group poll is not.
And yet, despite its inclusion, the Democracy Corps poll is not putting Corzine in the lead, or even closing the gap substantially with Christie.
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Over nearly a month's time, then, Corzine has remained stationary while Chris Christie has dropped less than half a point. And most of the latter's drop is attributable to the most recent poll, which it is safe to say is an outlier given the state of most of the other polls. Corzine has gotten more aggressive in terms of pushing the Bush/Christie link of late and that will have to stick to some significant degree for the incumbent to pull Christie back down to earth. I will say this: If Corzine can string together a series of good polls, it will be much easier for the media to take up the "comeback" story (as something different in the race) and for the race to fall into line with "this is the Democrats coming home to Corzine" pattern we've all been primed to expect. Of course the competing storyline is that this race and the Virginia race are harbingers of a Republican resurgence at the national level. Virginia will have something to say about that, but FHQ will have more on the state of the race in the commonwealth tomorrow.
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The trendlines above aren't terribly exciting, so I may try and add in the actual polling fluctuations along with the FHQ average trendline to provide a more informative picture of the progress. Be on the lookout for that in the next update.
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| New Jersey Gubernatorial Polls (July 31-Aug. 18) | |||||
| Poll | Date | Corzine | Christie | Daggett | Undecided |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Democracy Corps [pdf] | Aug. 11-12, 2009 | 35 | 40 | 10 | 15 |
| Quinnipiac | Aug. 5-9, 2009 | 40 | 46 | 7 | 6 |
| Daily Kos/Research 2000 | Aug. 3-5, 2009 | 40 | 48 | -- | 9 |
| Rasmussen | Aug. 4, 2009 | 37 | 50 | -- | 8 |
| Monmouth/Gannett [pdf] | July 29-Aug. 2, 2009 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 8 |
| Public Policy Polling [pdf] | July 24-27, 2009 | 36 | 50 | -- | 14 |
Before I get into the specifics, let me make a note on the inclusion of one poll (Democracy Corps) and the exclusion of another (Global Strategy Group). I'll admit, I wrestled over including the Democracy Corps poll, but ultimately fell back on what I did regarding the polling outfit during the presidential campaign. I included them. Again, I'm cognizant of the fact that what were dealing with here is an organization that leans left, but I draw the line between partisan leaning and partisan aligned in these cases. FHQ would not, for instance, use the numbers from a Republican Governors Association poll, but we are in the habit of accepting the numbers from right leaning Strategic Vision. The same is true in this case. The Democracy Corps numbers are included while the New Jersey Democratic Assembly sanctioned Global Strategy Group poll is not.
And yet, despite its inclusion, the Democracy Corps poll is not putting Corzine in the lead, or even closing the gap substantially with Christie.
[Click to Enlarge]Over nearly a month's time, then, Corzine has remained stationary while Chris Christie has dropped less than half a point. And most of the latter's drop is attributable to the most recent poll, which it is safe to say is an outlier given the state of most of the other polls. Corzine has gotten more aggressive in terms of pushing the Bush/Christie link of late and that will have to stick to some significant degree for the incumbent to pull Christie back down to earth. I will say this: If Corzine can string together a series of good polls, it will be much easier for the media to take up the "comeback" story (as something different in the race) and for the race to fall into line with "this is the Democrats coming home to Corzine" pattern we've all been primed to expect. Of course the competing storyline is that this race and the Virginia race are harbingers of a Republican resurgence at the national level. Virginia will have something to say about that, but FHQ will have more on the state of the race in the commonwealth tomorrow.
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[Click to Enlarge]The trendlines above aren't terribly exciting, so I may try and add in the actual polling fluctuations along with the FHQ average trendline to provide a more informative picture of the progress. Be on the lookout for that in the next update.
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